businessman Mindia Gulua living in Moscow
confirmed to “Presa.ge”, that one of the candidates living in Georgia sent,
so-called, crime bosses to him. Moreover, Gulua said that “gathering of
criminals” was held in the same city where “dreamer” Kakha Kaladze was at that
time. According to the businessman, it was decided there to sent, so-called,
“thieves in law” living in Moscow
to him… You will find out from exclusive interview of “Presa.ge” why the
criminal bosses were sent to Mindia Gulua and what connection has Bidzina
Ivanishvili and Kakha Kaladze to the “gatherings of criminals”….
“Presa.ge”: Shalva Natelashvili said in a
conversation with us that Kahkha Kaladze has met with the, so-called, thieves
in law in Cannes.
After this meeting, these so-called “criminal bosses” contacted you to make you
“donate” some amount to “Georgian dream”. Do you confirm this information?
Gulua: I don’t know Kakha Kaladze personally and I have nothing
to do with him. However, when I heard news that Kakha Kaladze was in Milan and he gathered the
so-called “thieves in law”, I was interested, as my name was mentioned there
sent my representatives to that city… they soon found out that on that day,
which was reported by media, Kakha Kaladze was not in Milan. Kaladze was in Cannes. Moreover, this,
so-called, “gathering of criminals” was conducted in Cannes
and not in Milan.
not say was Kaladze there or not, as I am a lawyer and if I don’t have exact
evidence, naturally, I must be responsible for this statement.
Did the so-called criminal bosses visit you?
- I can
confirm you the information that the, so-called, “Thieves in law” were really
sent to me in Moscow.
And the person who sent them is one of the candidates participating in the
forthcoming elections in Georgia.
tell you… Demanding money was not the issue here. I was asked to remove my
political party from the list of candidates and to leave the election campaign.
That was the first request, which was categorically refused.
Who came to you?
who had come to me are already wanted. I wrote a letter to a federal structure,
as I am a politician… For me such criminal and gangster things are
unacceptable. That’s why I wrote a statement about it. As I know, they will
soon be arrested…
protected by the security service; my movement is very much restricted, as they
created a serious threat for me. There was a very bad conversation and
naturally, I made law enforcers aware. Their different threats never affect me. I have passed through war and
I would not go to politics if I was afraid of some, so-called, thieves.
Did they threaten you with physical liquidation?
business is protected in every way. However, no one is protected from physical
destruction. For that reason, I had to hire guards for my family members too. I
am talking about two of them, others are in Tbilisi.
When the so-called criminals were sent to you, did they introduce themselves?
Did they say who had sent them?
- I have
no right to say that. It is known only to that candidate who is in Tbilisi now and who has
sent them to me. Law enforcers will investigate it… A person is only guilty
when a court will sentence him. Everything will be clarified then. Probably
they could not foresee who they have to deal with…
In your opinion, why Ivainshvili wants to remove you from political field, does
he consider you as a competitor?
- I have
not specified and I never told that this person was Bidzina Ivanishvili. Did I
mention “Georgian dream” or Ivanishvili anywhere?
- You have not mentioned, but I will recall
you that our conversation started with the meeting of Kakha Kaladze and the so-called,
thieves in law, in Cannes.
You said you have checked information reported by media. Logically, if you
confirm reports about the so-called, “meeting of criminals” and people sent to
you, it is not hard to guess who stands behind Kakha Kaladze’s actions and
which “candidate from Tbilisi”
you are speaking about…
fact, that Kakha Kaladze was in Cannes
and the so-called “meeting of criminals” took place there, was confirmed by my
security. You better ask Kaladze what happened on that meeting and who was sent
where. I just want to warn those who come to Georgian politics that no business
can be solved with a criminal and gangster methods.
You have announced desire to engage into Georgian politics quite a long time
ago. Was there any other similar request or demand (about you quitting the
politics) coming from any political organization or individual political leader
- No, nothing of this kind has ever happened before.
...Then Bidzina Ivanishvili appeared
in Georgian politics and the coalition “Georgian dream” has been formed. Don’t
you think that if before you have not been obstacle for anyone and therefore,
no one has been sent to you, maybe exactly newly-formed political force stands
behind all this things?
- I know
who the author of this meeting is. I know those who were attending it, but I
cannot name them now. For one reason. If I name Ivanishvili, Petriashvili or
someone else now, then I will have to be responsible for this legally. Yes, I
know who came and who had sent them. Those persons who are wanted now will be
arrested and everything will be clarified then.
Those who came to you, were they participants of the, so-called, “criminals’
meeting” in Cannes?
participants of the meeting ordered it to their, so-called, colleagues in Moscow. Finally, I would
like to say one thing: I would like to wish Georgia to have fair elections in
2012 and I don’t want there to be unrest. I want Georgia to be successful country
and Georgian people – happy.